What IS the rule with Snow Plows?

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What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« on: January 15, 2011, 07:28:06 PM »
Honest question:  Do snow plows have to stop at stop signs when they come to them?

I'd like to think this is a no-brainer, but I've witnessed plows running stop signs on a number of occasions this year.
Maybe it has always happened and now I'm just more attuned to it?

I tried to look it up in NYS V&T but didn't have a lot of luck with their search engine...
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 07:44:25 PM »
Not sure about the snow plow rules but that site is really bad for searching.  I recently tried to use it to see what the rules were for approaching emergency vehicles with their lights on.  I swear I read where we already were supposed to slow down and change lanes.
Some other interesting things "I think" I saw are:
1. You can legally pass on the right if someone is stopped to take a left.
2. You're supposed to come to a complete stop when entering the roadway.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 07:49:18 PM »
Seems that they are not an emergency vehicle.Stop should mean stop.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2011, 08:24:59 PM »
legally they should stop but physically i wouldn't pull out in front of them. 

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2011, 09:20:54 PM »
The rule is when you just finish the end of your driveway, they will come fill it up with snow again.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2011, 09:28:14 PM »
The rule is when you just finish the end of your driveway, they will come fill it up with snow again.

You must live on my street. :-\
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2011, 09:35:51 PM »
Snow plows have to follow rules?  Maybe someone should tell them.  Twice in past years (when I lived on the Massey St Rd.) I was almost struck head on by a snow plow driving full-speed down the middle of the road with his plow down, leaving me no choice but to go off the road.
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2011, 09:37:40 PM »
The rule is when you just finish the end of your driveway, they will come fill it up with snow again.

You must live on my street. :-\

In all the places I have lived, they do that.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2011, 09:47:07 PM »
I don't think they get any special dispensations.  If you know whose plow it is, get a number, place, and time and send in a complaint (in writing).  If you call them, they'll just give you some jibberjabber about how hard it is for the plows to stop and start, yada yada yada.

I remember hearing about plows running the wrong way on Arsenal Street from the Square to Massey, when it was all one way.

If it weren't for trashing your car and the possibility of injury, I'd recommend asserting your right-of-way.  That would probably cure them for a while.

In the meantime, give 'em a wide berth.  They're bigger than you are.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2011, 11:06:14 PM »
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remember hearing about plows running the wrong way on Arsenal Street from the Square to Massey, when it was all one way.

If it weren't for trashing your car and the possibility of injury, I'd recommend asserting your right-of-way.  That would probably cure them for a while.


Ayuh,....   Or you could just be careful, 'n make way, where you can,....

Those guys are just out there doin' a Job,...
I wouldn't Expect the plow to come to a full 3 second Stop at stop signs,...
It's not Practical, unless there's traffic...
If there's traffic, 'course he's gotta stop...

Back in the 80s, the state of New Mexico plowed the left lane of the interstates, going the Wrong Way...
All their plows were 1-way plows....
Scared the Ship outa me the 1st time I saw it happenin',... :o
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2011, 11:51:01 PM »
"the rule" as tree pointed out is "they're bigger than you, they'll do whatever they want to do.

once i was headed to work (surprising, i know) before the sun came up.
 just before the hill at porky's a plow came through with the left side blade down and the bright lights burnin' i don't know who's truck it was but i have to assume it was chaumont's or maybe a state plow due to location. i tried to stop and it didn't help, i ended up in the ditch... took me a few minutes but i got out without having to call anyone for help.
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2011, 11:24:35 AM »
Another ? Is it a law that a back hoe has to be license to operate on a street, highway?

Dont mean to derail the thread.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2011, 11:55:22 AM »
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Another ? Is it a law that a back hoe has to be license to operate on a street, highway?

Nope,...   It's just gotta be Insured....
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2011, 01:49:29 PM »
Honest question:  Do snow plows have to stop at stop signs when they come to them?

I'd like to think this is a no-brainer, but I've witnessed plows running stop signs on a number of occasions this year.
Maybe it has always happened and now I'm just more attuned to it?

I tried to look it up in NYS V&T but didn't have a lot of luck with their search engine...

Snow plows are considered a Hazard Vehicle.  NYS V&T Law section 1103 exempts them from the rules of the road when engaged in road maintenance except in a very limited set or circumstances as long as take reasonable care. 

So in answer to your question, yes they can run thru a stop sign if they make sure the road is clear.

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2011, 10:17:30 PM »
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Another ? Is it a law that a back hoe has to be license to operate on a street, highway?

Nope,...   It's just gotta be Insured....

Most times when you see the state, city, town, villages, etc. operating them, they do have plates. Official plates are free for the government, so that's why they register them.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 06:57:24 AM »
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Another ? Is it a law that a back hoe has to be license to operate on a street, highway?

Nope,...   It's just gotta be Insured....


Sorry Bondo, but you got that answer wrong.

VTL section 401 requires that they be registered and pay an annual fee of $14.38.  So a backhoe must be registered along with most costruction vehicles, to include Rollers, cranes, Sweepers and many other items.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 11:06:18 AM »
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Another ? Is it a law that a back hoe has to be license to operate on a street, highway?

Nope,...   It's just gotta be Insured....


Sorry Bondo, but you got that answer wrong.

VTL section 401 requires that they be registered and pay an annual fee of $14.38.  So a backhoe must be registered along with most costruction vehicles, to include Rollers, cranes, Sweepers and many other items.

Hmmmm,....   I guess every contractor in NYS missed that memo....
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 04:57:59 PM »
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Another ? Is it a law that a back hoe has to be license to operate on a street, highway?

Nope,...   It's just gotta be Insured....


Sorry Bondo, but you got that answer wrong.

VTL section 401 requires that they be registered and pay an annual fee of $14.38.  So a backhoe must be registered along with most costruction vehicles, to include Rollers, cranes, Sweepers and many other items.

Hmmmm,....   I guess every contractor in NYS missed that memo....
With NYS needing money it's just a matter of time they'll want their dime.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 06:39:22 PM »

VTL section 401 requires that they be registered and pay an annual fee of $14.38.  So a backhoe must be registered along with most costruction vehicles, to include Rollers, cranes, Sweepers and many other items.

I remember that there used to be a "special commercial" plate back in the day, but I looked on DMV's website last year and really couldn't find any info about registering such equipment.

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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2011, 01:06:57 AM »

VTL section 401 requires that they be registered and pay an annual fee of $14.38.  So a backhoe must be registered along with most costruction vehicles, to include Rollers, cranes, Sweepers and many other items.

I remember that there used to be a "special commercial" plate back in the day, but I looked on DMV's website last year and really couldn't find any info about registering such equipment.

They are working out the details on how to register them now that it has been brought up.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2011, 06:59:03 AM »


They are working out the details on how to register them now that it has been brought up.

I know that state government has "STATE" plates and local governments get "OFFICIAL" plates. I guess that I haven't seen plates on privately owned equipment in a long time so I wondered how that worked.
Over 25 years ago I worked at Northern Asphalt and we had some equipment with "SPEC COMM" plates on them. Yet I have a towable boom lift that doesn't require a plate. Sure wish DMV would simplify sometimes.
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2011, 06:11:14 PM »
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In the meantime, give 'em a wide berth.  They're bigger than you are.

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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2011, 06:19:54 PM »
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In the meantime, give 'em a wide berth.  They're bigger than you are.

   Ayuh! It is better to yield, than to be "right and wrecked"!

 

Ayuh,...   Is that what Snow plowin's all about down there Larry,..??

Where's the Snow,..??   ;D
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Re: What IS the rule with Snow Plows?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2011, 06:26:49 PM »
   When I retired Bondo, I put my snowblower in the back of my pickup, and drove south. This is the first place someone said: "What the hell is that thing in the back?"  ;D 
   They DO have plows down here, but they spend most of their time in the garage.  ;)
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