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How many gas engines are left in the county?

Are you talking in active service or as parade rigs?

Interesting topic, also I wonder who has the oldest rig still in front line service?

Both I guess in service and how many gpm and working parade trucks

As far as I know there are no front line engines with gas motors still in service. There are many departments that have antiques and parade trucks with gas motors.

The only one I can think of that might qualify is (was?) Theresa's Chevy, but I'm not even sure about that.

Does the Bay still have an ALF?  It might be gas.

As for the oldest still in service - I can't say as I know.  Probably a tanker - they tend to hang around for quite a while.

Calumet the only one I can think of ready for use was your Sanford. But that was almost 10 years ago before I moved away. Beyond that I'm not really sure

Chaumont took their gas engine out of frontline service last summer. I think they still have it for 3rd line pumper. I know they use it for waterball every year.

I think the FD in Jewett,NY still has a gas one, I think it's lime green. Jewett, ny is in Greene County, currently most of the county is buried under 5 ft of snow.

Here is the deal Clayton is hosting the NYS Drill and Parade and are looking for a back up pumper for the drill. They currently have taking there old 750 hale gas engine tanker a made a pump house and are looking for something similar for a back up for the event.

Mannsville still has their 1964 Sanford. You would have to contact them to find out specifics about it - like is it roadworthy and pumping ability.

Here is the deal Clayton is hosting the NYS Drill and Parade and are looking for a back up pumper for the drill. They currently have taking there old 750 hale gas engine tanker a made a pump house and are looking for something similar for a back up for the event.

So why does it have to be gas??   Isn't there more than one engine in Clayton that could be used??

So why does it have to be gas??   

Gas engined pumpers tend to recover more quickly when used for tournament water supply...

So why does it have to be gas??   

Gas engined pumpers tend to recover more quickly when used for tournament water supply...

Ok, can you eleborate Tree, have never been involved in firematics? 

If you are supplying a "hydrant" or valve and are pumping at a set pressure, once you open the valve and call for water, is it not more dependent on the pressure govenor or relief valve and how quickly that reacts? Have pumped both gas and diesel powered engines and can't say I really have noticed a difference in how quick they respond...but its been quite a few years since I have pumped a gas powered pumper.

Ideally, there would be instantaneous water, at the desired flow, when the hydrant man opens the valve.  On a municipal system with a good head, that comes close to happening, but municipal systems are subject to use by others - if there's a commercial break and everyone hits the bathroom at the same time, system pressure may well drop.   

Part of the prelims for the races where water flows is timing how long it takes for the water to travel from the hydrant to a predetermined point (not sure what that distance is - I don't race).   Sometimes it takes a little tinkering, and once the teams are happy, nobody touches the pumper unless there's a very good reason.

Unless you've got one honking pumper, you'll usually see a dip in the RPMs when the hydrant valve is opened.  As a rule that dip is a little less, and recovers faster with a gas engine.

Water must travel from an open hydrant between 3 lengths of 2-1/2 single jacket hose which hose must be between 144-145 feet in 4.5 to 5.0 seconds. Now if you have a diesel it may drop 400 rpm and stay there while a gas carburated will drop less and recover quick. From the pumper to the hydrant must be 2 discharges with 100 feet off each one suppling the racing hydrant.