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If authentic it could prove problematic for the cop.  You hear a single shot followed by a string of shots less than 1 second later followed by a second string of shots.  Now according to information out there the first shot supposedly took place within the car during a "struggle" at which point Brown allegedly was trying for the officer's gun.  The "problem" is that Brown was killed more than 30 feet away supposedly with his hands up.  How many people can break free from a fight and magically transport themselves 30 feet away in less than 1 second??  Also - there is only about 1 second between the first string of shots and the second which means that Brown would have had to have break free from a fight - move more than 30 feet away in about 1 second - then turn around and speak to the officer (supposedly taunting him about shooting while having his hands up) and then advance towards him after being shot at which would suggest he may have been even farther away than the point where he died ~35 feet - all in about a second.  Things that make you say Hmmmm?   :o

That will only be problematic if Wilson's weapon only fired 11 rounds that day. I'm thinking what we hear is after the one reportedly fired inside the cop car during a struggle between cop and thug for the cop's gun. That that one was not heard on the recording could explain the 30 or 35 foot distance from the cop car. I expect several seconds elapsed between the initial struggle and the end. Admittedly, my hearing ain't what it used to be, but I don't hear "a single shot followed by a string of shots less than 1 second later." I hear a string of shots followed a pause and then a second string of shots. I hear 6 shots followed by a pause of about 3 seconds followed by 5 more shots. I'm no expert, but I'm thinking cops are not trained to shoot to wound and they're not trained to stop shooting until the threat is neutralized. Also what I don't hear is anybody shouting "Don't shoot." Things that make you go aah!

Bullets - not voices - exceed the sound barrier hence the audible reports that follow them which can penetrate walls etc.  As such you would not expect to hear voices unless the recording was very close.  If you listen again to the audio you can distinctly hear 1 shot followed by a string of shots less than a second later and then the 2nd string of shots 1-2 seconds after that.  Considering the distances involved and the time between shots it is highly likely that the officer attempted to draw his weapon while in the car during the altercation at which point Brown seeing the weapon tried to push it away when it discharged.  Brown then attempted to flee the scene while the cop was firing the 2nd string of shots (which would be at his back) at which point Brown stopped and turned with his hands up.  I believe that the officer at that point was mad and had already made up his mind to kill Brown hence the final string of shots which killed him and which would correlate with witness testimony for the timeframe that Brown had his hands up.  At this point Brown was more than 30 feet away with his hands up - a universally recognized symbol of "surrender" - when he was killed.  As such given the distance away from the officer and having his hands in the air I think a jury may look hard at the presumption of "threat" at this point - especially considering that the initial reason for stopping was "jaywalking" - a trifling charge at best - and the officer's response which was to stop his car in the middle of the street and initiate a confrontation - further obstructing traffic.   :o
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General Discussion / Re: Unbelievable!
« Last post by johnqpublic on Today at 11:14:40 AM »
CT... You getting this? What cat said. Taxes paid to the tune of $24.7 Billion! By any measure, brother, that's a big d!ck.
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If authentic it could prove problematic for the cop.  You hear a single shot followed by a string of shots less than 1 second later followed by a second string of shots.  Now according to information out there the first shot supposedly took place within the car during a "struggle" at which point Brown allegedly was trying for the officer's gun.  The "problem" is that Brown was killed more than 30 feet away supposedly with his hands up.  How many people can break free from a fight and magically transport themselves 30 feet away in less than 1 second??  Also - there is only about 1 second between the first string of shots and the second which means that Brown would have had to have break free from a fight - move more than 30 feet away in about 1 second - then turn around and speak to the officer (supposedly taunting him about shooting while having his hands up) and then advance towards him after being shot at which would suggest he may have been even farther away than the point where he died ~35 feet - all in about a second.  Things that make you say Hmmmm?   :o

That will only be problematic if Wilson's weapon only fired 11 rounds that day. I'm thinking what we hear is after the one reportedly fired inside the cop car during a struggle between cop and thug for the cop's gun. That that one was not heard on the recording could explain the 30 or 35 foot distance from the cop car. I expect several seconds elapsed between the initial struggle and the end. Admittedly, my hearing ain't what it used to be, but I don't hear "a single shot followed by a string of shots less than 1 second later." I hear a string of shots followed a pause and then a second string of shots. I hear 6 shots followed by a pause of about 3 seconds followed by 5 more shots. I'm no expert, but I'm thinking cops are not trained to shoot to wound and they're not trained to stop shooting until the threat is neutralized. Also what I don't hear is anybody shouting "Don't shoot." Things that make you go aah!
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General Discussion / Re: Unbelievable!
« Last post by catnap on Today at 10:18:13 AM »
Take a look at corporate financial statements:

Let's take a look at ExonMobile

EBIT (Earnings before interest and Taxes)  $ 57.7 Billion
ITE (Income Tax Expense)                        $ 24.7 Billion.

On the other hand, some corporations, such as Google pay relatively little income tax.  These companies tend to be big time Obama supporters.

The issue is not the fact that corporations are not paying enough taxes. The problem is with the the personal income tax and the fact that too few people are paying.  Half of people who work don't pay income taxes, The top 5 percent of earners pay 57 percent and the top 1 percent pays 35 percent.

Other facts that may distress you:   Thirty-Five percent of the population is one form or another of welfare, with the welfare definition excluding social security and Medicare.

If you invest in stocks and dividends you are getting screwed.   The current top dividend tax rate on individuals is 23.5 percent (20 percent tax on dividend plus another 3.5 percent to pay for Sandra's contraceptives).  What this means that as an example, a company has a profit before taxes of $1000 which belongs to you, the shareholder.  But wait, the federal will take $400 of that in the form of the corporate tax.  You now have $600 but wait, another $130 will be taken by the Feds, this time in the form of the dividend tax.  This leaves you with $470 which amounts to an effective dividend tax rate of 53 percent.  This is not the end, however.  When state and local jurisdictions finish with taking their cut you loose another $150 dollars.  leaving you is $320 which amounts to an effective tax rate of 68 percent.
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General Discussion / Re: woman for sheriff
« Last post by bigbore45 on Today at 09:47:47 AM »


   Sammy, you can jump back in here anytime! ;D
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General Discussion / Re: Eleven Killed, Sixty Wounded Over 4th Weekend
« Last post by bigbore45 on Today at 09:44:47 AM »


  And just how many Dogs does Hillary have in this Dog Fight? I guess Rev. Al had
  a talk with Hillary and explained she may need the Black Vote in 2016 and Ferguson
  was the place to start! Rev. Al Sharpton, Now there is a Creditable Racist.

 
Newser)  – "We don't want to see our streets look like a war zone. Not in America. We are better than that," Hillary Clinton told a tech conference in San Francisco yesterday in her first public remarks on events in Ferguson, Mo. Clinton praised "decent and respectful law enforcement officers, who showed what quality law enforcement looked like," the Hill reports, but she also called for a thorough investigation of the shooting of unarmed teen Michael Brown and for reforms to the justice system, saying, "We can't ignore the inequities that persist in our justice system that undermine our most deeply held values of fairness and equality."

Clinton—who noted that she was speaking on the 51st anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech— said that as a mother, her heart broke for the Brown family and that she also grieves "for that community and for many like it across our country." Clinton, who has yet to say whether she plans to run for president in 2016, had been criticized by the Rev. Al Sharpton and others for not addressing events in Ferguson earlier and declined to answer questions about the subject at a book signing last weekend, the New York Times reports.


     

 
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General Discussion / Re: Woolly Bears.
« Last post by bigbore45 on Today at 09:35:35 AM »

  The white/green cook stove is what I am talking a bought, First line #2/#6. She had the optional water heater on it. Cook, Bake, heat water, heat the kitchen.
   When we had the Micro Burst we went to check on her and she had the Cook Stove going, The Wood Stove going, Kerosene lights in every room and the Hand Pump on the kitchen sink even worked. She was Comfortable. If I was living alone I would call Ni Mo to take their box and wires of my house and would live of the grid.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=old+cook+wood+stoves&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=e38AVKvKF8jJgwTX84CoCw&ved=0CCYQsAQ&biw=1097&bih=534
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Turns out the audio of the shoot legit.

Ten shots fired.  A three second gap
between the first six and the last four.
Might mean sumpthin', might mean jack.


If authentic it could prove problematic for the cop.  You hear a single shot followed by a string of shots less than 1 second later followed by a second string of shots.  Now according to information out there the first shot supposedly took place within the car during a "struggle" at which point Brown allegedly was trying for the officer's gun.  The "problem" is that Brown was killed more than 30 feet away supposedly with his hands up.  How many people can break free from a fight and magically transport themselves 30 feet away in less than 1 second??  Also - there is only about 1 second between the first string of shots and the second which means that Brown would have had to have break free from a fight - move more than 30 feet away in about 1 second - then turn around and speak to the officer (supposedly taunting him about shooting while having his hands up) and then advance towards him after being shot at which would suggest he may have been even farther away than the point where he died ~35 feet - all in about a second.  Things that make you say Hmmmm?   :o
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For Christ's sake, CT! Brown was not shot in the back. Not once. WTF! I'm thinking that audio recording shows the cop's training in action. The first volley sent, the shooter pauses to assess the status of the threat. Threat still in play, another volley to end said threat. Surrender? Brown had no intention of surrendering. Didn't from the get go, from the moment he caved in Wilson's eye socket. And rushing toward an injured armed cop charged with stopping you does not signal the intent to give up, hands raised and pleading, "Don't shoot." #DontShoot don't mean jack only because it was never said until it was made up to weave a web of lies. "Dead N-words" may "tell no tales" but live asswipes do at an alarming rate.
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Jesus, CT. Obama's got no business at the table much less controlling the chips of team USA. He's got more tells than the rankest of amateur and no concept of how the game is played. "We don't have a strategy yet"? He doesn't even check his hole cards and his tenure's been a flop that's sending us all down the river. He checks when he should raise and folds like a cheap empty suit when he should go all in.
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